Eileen's Waltz. Internet seems to dislike crediting the actual author.
Written by Mark Schatz for his wife who passed away from cancer. Lovely little number.

Eileen's Waltz

Eileen was a longtime member of the Green Grass Cloggers and then the Fiddle Puppets, and a force of nature! Here she is dancing to our band in Louisville in 1978. She's the one in front in the lavender dress with the flower in her hair.
youtu.be/X_VeD7v0zQY?feature=shared

Today i are be mostly playin "Mouse in the kitchen"

I be playin' "Mountain Road" (figuring out bowing) and "Reconciliation Reel" (new tune).

Assigned in the online workshop I'm doing...it's been fun to learn stuff in a group, with teacher guidance!

I was listening to Rick Beato interview Rick Wakeman. Then I went down and this happened. It's not a Rick tune.

This is Old Time. Gimme Some Lovin, was cut in 1966. (Spencer Davis Group) S.W. was a member of.

"Rocky Road to Dublin" is my current obsession, lyrics and all.


Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road to Dublin, whack fol lol de ra!

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Originally posted by pete_fiddle

Today i are be mostly playin "Mouse in the kitchen"

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Great tune. Feels like it should be paired with "Mouse in the Mug"

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Originally posted by ChickenMan

"Rocky Road to Dublin" is my current obsession, lyrics and all.


Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road to Dublin, whack fol lol de ra!

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Great tune ! The tune that fits the words is slightly different from the instrumental tune. in my experience

Here's the tune with words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHafuFbxLc

i think these boys do a good job of it.... ....Hup ya Boya

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Originally posted by NCnotes

I be playin' "Mountain Road" (figuring out bowing) and "Reconciliation Reel" (new tune).

Assigned in the online workshop I'm doing...it's been fun to learn stuff in a group, with teacher guidance!

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Just tried em out. Both of those tunes have tricksy bowing.

It’s “Cross bowing” in the Sligo style, according to my teacher…
yep, it’s sure tricksy to me!

i'll look that one up...

Well i don't know about Cross bowing or owt but here's my rough A**ed version of mountain road...

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Originally posted by pete_fiddle

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Originally posted by ChickenMan

"Rocky Road to Dublin" is my current obsession, lyrics and all.


Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road to Dublin, whack fol lol de ra!

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Great tune ! The tune that fits the words is slightly different from the instrumental tune. in my experience

Here's the tune with words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHafuFbxLc

i think these boys do a good job of it.... ....Hup ya Boya

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Yes I noticed that. I'm going with the sung  melody over the tune proper. Slip jigs are weird  

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Originally posted by ChickenMan

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Originally posted by pete_fiddle

Today i are be mostly playin "Mouse in the kitchen"

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Great tune. Feels like it should be paired with "Mouse in the Mug"

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Just after i posted the tune i went to stoke up the stove in the kitchen, and a mouse ran across the stove and dissapeared behind it ! i never saw a mouse run as quick !

Edit: i hope it 's not going to Cr*p in my mug now! LOL

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Originally posted by ChickenMan

"Rocky Road to Dublin" is my current obsession, lyrics and all.


Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road to Dublin, whack fol lol de ra!

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This one switches between 9/8 and 6/8

i think Switches to 6/8 for ...A / long the Rocky / Road to Dub- a-lin / ....Then back to 9/8  for Whack?

Appears to be fully 9/8 in my publication. It's a strange one as the phrases feel like they are sometimes in the 6/8 of which you speak. 

I learned Rocky Road to Dublin by osmosis at session…I’ve never looked at sheet music for it! Written out in 9/8 time, that’s interesting to look at…I dunno, it does have that weird idiosyncratic timing to it, I don’t know if straight 9/8 can capture it…

Re Mountain Road - I play it that way now too, Pete! Separate bows. I like your playing!
So my teacher does some kinda slur2/ slur3/single2 pattern at the beginning- it sounds pretty cool, and that’s the “crossbowing” … it feels weird, but I’m trying to get the hang of it.

And haha, if you saw a mouse near your mug…will I see a Cricket march over my Saltbox?!

Finally moved in! The new appartment is top and my Ziva feels great here! I thought now it's finally over after almost 2 months of preparations but now there is boxes all over the place to unbox.
I played a bit this evening but found I lack really good tunes in sawmill tuning, it's like i always repeat the same stuff ....time for some action! I sent luthier a message that next week I can pick up the old JTL fiddle... After More research I am fully co nvinced it IS a JTL, seen the label that was put there a very long time ago seen the old books smell and from what I remember from the original tail piece with only 1 fine tuner on it... I kind of regret now that I told the seller I needed a tailpiece with 4 fine tu ners. I compared with other JTL fiddles and yes the original tail piece looked exactly like some other JTL models round 1907. I wish I had asked to leave the original tail piece on it it looked cool all wooden.

Glad to hear you're moved in, if not unpacked. Did you save your old tailpiece? Its a good idea to save old parts, if they're not broken or worn out. In any case, fine tuners are really only needed for steel strings. If you use synthetic or gut strings you only need a fine tuner for the steel E string, which is why so many old fiddles have only one fine tuner. For steel strings you can add fine tuners to a wooden tailpiece, but a better solution is a tailpiece with built in tuners, or geared pegs.
PS - Rereading your post I guess the old tailpiece was removed before you got the fidde so you probably don't have it. Oh well - may well not have been original anyway, fittngs can be replaced.

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Originally posted by DougD

Glad to hear you're moved in, if not unpacked. Did you save your old tailpiece? Its a good idea to save old parts, if they're not broken or worn out. In any case, fine tuners are really only needed for steel strings. If you use synthetic or gut strings you only need a fine tuner for the steel E string, which is why so many old fiddles have only one fine tuner. For steel strings you can add fine tuners to a wooden tailpiece, but a better solution is a tailpiece with built in tuners, or geared pegs.
PS - Rereading your post I guess the old tailpiece was removed before you got the fidde so you probably don't have it. Oh well - may well not have been original anyway, fittngs can be replaced.

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Well the seller eventually sold it with a tailpiece with 4 fine tuners, because I mentioned crosstuning and steel strings he  had replaced the tail piece. He did not give me the original tail piece however, I should have asked for it. His idea was  the violin was best off with synthetic strings hehe.  My own idea is that the old JTL always has this special appealing sound,no matter how cheap or expensive the bow or no matter what kind of strings you choose for it.  It just cannot sound bad.

Looking forward to have it back <3 If it was already very attractive to me with even lowered neck and a strange bridge and like 4  different string brands on the same time, then it must be that after all of the luthier 's work it will rise and shine once again??  Meanwhile I keep in mind that it might one day be set up again with synthetic strings.... NOT sure. It is easy to tune the pegs of this fiddle. As long as I choose this one for also cross tuning it will be steel strings. 

Been listening to Rocky Road to Dublin. What happens is the singer often (usually) holds the last note too long on the end of the last phrase before "On the rocky road to Dublin. 12345" thus making it a 4 pulse phrase rather than the 3 of the slip jig. 
In the photo I posted, that would be the word "dogs" - holding it out like the previous one when it is, in this notated case, an 8th note (US) right into "....on the..." There's no need to hold the note out and the song is completely singable as a slip jig. I've also noticed many lyrics seem to be altered for ease of singing, fewer runs of 8ths here and there. Great song, speaks to me. My grandpa was a first gen Irish immigrant. I didn't think anything about his funny way of talking and he seemed like Popeye and Mr Magoo combined. My aunt said he always sounded more Irish as he got drunker (which in my memory was most nights). Anyway, he played a mean button accordion and sang lots of songs that sound and feel like this.

Rocky Road… I’ve made a stab at singing it but the lyrics are so tongue-twisty and rapid-fire, I tended to make a mess of it. Plus I got made fun of for pronouncing ‘Tuam’ incorrectly (apparently it’s ‘toom’, to rhyme with ‘June’ which of course makes sense)

yea it sure seems hard to sing unless you slow it down a lot!
I am just fascinated by that “whack fol lol de ra” ending…
it’s the kind of thing that sets me to endless googling! Maybe it’s like “lilting”?

(And Pete, the singing video is great!)

I used to sing it back in the day lol...i fitted the words in like this... speed it up later

NCnotes - I guess its like lilting or diddling, but I think of that as singing a tune with syllables instead of words or an instrument - "mouth music."
In any case its not so uncommon in Ireland and over here - maybe a way for everyone to join in on a chorus without knowing words.
Irish examples - "Gilgarra Mountain" and "Paddy on the Railway."
Over here there's "Sourwood Mountain," "Devilish Mary," "The Ballad of Blue Mountain Lake," just off the top of my head.
Lots of children's songs too, like "This Old Man."
Lots of other examples from all over the world.