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Originally posted by Quincy

I worked a whole afternoon ( seriously) to find a way to play the intro of this tune at least as I can hear it being played by Edn Hammons, I think I am close, maybe not exactly right on spot, but it is a beginning, right? Long live the slow down function on YouTube! During the weekend I willl give the next part a shot.
Wooden mute is on for the neighbours.

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I see no reason why you won't eventually 'nail' this tune !!! There is no hurry.  

Thanks for listening!
Lee you are absolutely right, there is actually no hurry. But there is so much to discover and explore :-D

Nicely done. BTW, the tune is known as "The Blackbird" in Ireland.

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Originally posted by gapbob

Nicely done. BTW, the tune is known as "The Blackbird" in Ireland.

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Yes, so I heard. And thank you! I should listen to some strictly Irish players  playing this tune as well! 

Sounds good! Also, look up Marcus Martin's Wounder Hoosier. It's a very close variant.

Thanks Kirk, going to look up Wounder Hoosier now!

Yay!! This seems like and sounds like Edn Hammons tune decyphered and pethaps made way more symmetric How is that possible. Very helpful! Not sure if I have found the right video though:
youtu.be/qvd86HPnjb8?feature=shared

Here's Marcus Martin playing the tune: slippery-hill.com/content/wounded-hoosier
Not the best sound quality, but perfectly listensble for me. I'd say that's one of the best tunes I've heard in that tuning, which I don't usually like much.

Love this crooked Marcus Martin playing a lot <3
I have been in DDAD for a while now and like it a lot more than I did before. Next on the list is Cruel Willy - now listening to the four versions in DDAD on slippery hill.
I clearly prefer the Art Stamper 's version <3 The bit of plucking and the foot tapping with it go so well :-D

Anja, I feel sure Marcus Martin's "Wounded Hoosier" must be somehow related to "The Wounded Hussar," which was a popular song (and print) around 1800. The Hussars were a type of light cavalry in Europe (and even in the American Civil War) known for their elaborate uniforms and flamboyant behavior. There's plenty about them online, including a lengthy Wikipedia article, which even shows a piece of Chinese painted porcelain, after the print.
Here's a copy of the sheet music from New York: levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/col...n/113/093
The words were set to several tunes and have a convoluted and somewhat murky history. Marcus Martin's tune doesn't seem very close to the published melody, but it shares some similar rhythms to my ears.

Possibly a mix up between a Fusilier and a Hussar?

If it is a descendant of "The Blackbird" It's probably from the Jacobite rebellion, (or even before)? Bonny prince Charlie, Young pretender, Old pretender etc..

I like that "Cruel Willie" it was a Virtual Fiddle Festival tune. Here's my take with some Garage Band backup

.Cruel Willie

Warren Cronin of Pheasants County WV was recorded playing this tune in 1942... and singing a verse of "The Blackbird".

Some of the old timers around Morgantown, WV just knew it as "Death March". Samuel P. Bayard collected a bunch of fiddle and fife versions in SA Pennsylvania. I have a recording of one of the fifers somewhere... One of them there Hammons played it as Wild Man of the Forest or something like that and another Hammons called it Star of Bethlehem maybe ... I'm too lazy to find those right now. Here's the link to Warren Cronin...

https://folkmusic.lib.wvu.edu/catalog/Chappell_70_Cronin_A3_Blackbird

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Originally posted by Shawn Craver Fiddler

Warren Cronin of Pheasants County WV was recorded playing this tune in 1942... and singing a verse of "The Blackbird".Here's the link to Warren Cronin...

https://folkmusic.lib.wvu.edu/catalog/Chappell_70_Cronin_A3_Blackbird

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The same as the Irish set dance and the words too, usually sung more slowly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lMBQPr8Y9w

vocals and lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIqTdOw12zk
https://mainlynorfolk.info/folk/songs/theroyalblackbird.html#paddytunney
 

Sherman Hammons--    fieldrecorder.bandcamp.com/tra...em-fiddle

Nice job, Anja! Sounds great! Don't get overwhelmed by too many versions at once...I think if you keep the thread running true with what you are doing you'll be playing the whole thing soon, and very nicely too. A person can get bogged down by worrying about too many versions...it might be a good idea to stick with one way of playing it and then if you get tired of playing it that way in the future pick up another version or play around with it yourself and see what happens. That's just my opinion...not worth a lot, but don't worry, I don't charge...lol. Seriously...keep looking straight ahead at what you are doing...sounding really nice!

I do not get this tune. It seems like you all have posted a something almost completely different.

I am feverish, so take this with a grain of salt.

Maybe it will be clearer when you're feeling better Billy, but maybe not. I don't get it either. Shawn said it had been collected by Samuel Bayard, and sure enough #88 in "Hill Country Tunes" is "The Blackbird," but version A is from Sarah Armstrong, who called it "Bonaparte Crossing the Rhine," and the notation is close to the tune I know by that name. However, #90 in the collection is "Bonaparte Crossing the Rhine" again played by Mrs. Armsrong ON THE SAME DATE, but the notation is slightly different, and Bayard didn't seem to draw a connection between the two.
I agree with Peggy that if the Edn Hammons tune appeals to Anja she should stick with it, but as for me, retuning like that is way too much trouble, and I'll just stick with what I know. I'm trying to relearn the two row button accordion, and this seems like good practice, so tuning isn't really an issue.

I see the Irish set dance as a different tune...

I don't think there is a melodic connection between the commonly known Bonaparte tune and Blackbird/Wounded Hussar/Queen of The Earth/Wild Man...

Billy...hope you are feeling better soon.

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I like that "Cruel Willie" it was a Virtual Fiddle Festival tune. Here's my take with some Garage Band backup

.Cruel Willie

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Cool take!!! IThe way you bring it has something 'sneaking up on someone' hehe :-p and then following that person on foot fiddle in the hand :-p

Here's the version I've listened to quite a lot.  

Terrific fiddler, name of Betse Ellis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInK7vD5ULU&list=RDqInK7vD5ULU&start_radio=1

You're doing well, too.  It's hard to sound consistent when I am playing so slowly.

Betse Ellis is a powerhouse musician. I got to do a couple theater shows with her, so we spent a few months total playing and hanging out. The first one was in Kansas City, where she lived, and we spent some fun time with the Wilders. A lot of music in that town too. The next production of that show was in NH with another fiddle player. He had a festival comittment one weekend and the theater flew Betse in for a few shows. I was inspired to make a little sign on copy paper to put on the floor in front of us "World's Greatest Old Time Band." Maybe not me, but it applied to Betse.
The show was supposed to be a live 1930's country radio show, and our trio went out and played three numbers to warm up the crowd. The last one was always the same, but Betse, Ed Snodderly and I would meet in the wings 15 minutes before the show to decide what to play for the other two. She knows lots of tunes. One of my favorite fiddlers.
BTW, a big influence on Betse was fiddler and fiddle maker Violet Hensley, who is now 108 years old. Here's a video about thei relationship: youtu.be/loIHBYqbIFc?feature=shared